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Jay Jaffe FanGraphs Chat – 5/14/24

May 15, 2024
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2:01

Jay Jaffe: Good afternoon, people!

2:04

Avatar Jay Jaffe: All of which is to say that along with having a very good time interacting with our readers in these chats, they’re a very good place to get an concept of what you people are concerned with, and I come out of every one with at the very least a few concepts — not all of which come to fruition, however they’re nonetheless helpful. So thanks for that. And now, on with the present

2:04

Shotamania: Shota has the bottom ERA in his first 8 begins (0.96) since Fernando Valenzuela method again in 1981.  I’m simply sufficiently old to recollect Fernando-mania.  Ought to we be speaking about Shotamania?

2:06

Avatar Jay Jaffe: As anyone whose baseball fandom was in full flower throughout Fernandomania — I reduce his field scores out of the Salt Lake Tribune and taped them right into a three-ring binder — I’ve considered this comparability, and even thought-about doing a Shotamania piece, however  Kyle Kishimoto, who’s not sufficiently old to recollect Fernando, beat me to the protection

2:10

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Clearly, Imanaga is on a powerful run, with a 0.96 ERA and a pair of.30 FIP by means of eight begins. Is it a mania? I don’t suppose it’s had anyplace close to the cultural influence of Fernandomania, which tapped into the Los Angeles Dodgers’ authentic sin of constructing their ballpark at Chavez Ravine, which pressured the eviction of almost 2,000 Mexican-American households dwelling there.

2:11

Avatar Jay Jaffe: I do suppose the Cubs obtained themselves an awesome pitcher, and hope his run continues.

2:12

Justin: Hello Jay. Have you learnt how cwpa is calculated for an everyday season sport? Thanks

2:13

Curtis: Is there any option to discover out the burden of bat gamers use? and even what the span is from lightest to heaviest?  Looks as if years in the past they swung actual lumber…I ponder if or how a lot that has modified over time.  Thanks!

2:14

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Offhand, I don’t suppose there’s anyone accumulating them, and I don’t suppose even Statcast might actually tease it out. Value remembering that some gamers use completely different bats in opposition to completely different pitchers, too.

2:15

Avatar Jay Jaffe: However i do suppose the overall pattern over time has been in the direction of lighter bats. No person is swinging the type of struggle golf equipment Babe Ruth or Hack Wilson wielded.

2:16

Andy: How impressed are you with NYY catching scenario? Wells with a > .400 xwOBA, Trevino with a 129 wRC+ and an elevated emphasis on pulling fly balls. To not point out Rice and Ramirez at Somerset

2:17

Avatar Jay Jaffe: At a time when main league catching expertise appears fairly skinny, the Yankees do have among the finest pairs within the majors. Trevino has bounced again properly after an injury-marred season and Wells has been fairly stable due to. his plate self-discipline; each are good framers as properly.

2:19

mmddyyyy: Which stadiums don’t use actual grass?

2:20

Avatar Jay Jaffe: There are at present 5, these of the D-backs, Marlins, Rays, Rangers, and Blue Jays.

2:20

Half Man, Half Manzardo: Curious in your tackle the Prime Prospect Battle-itis this 12 months. (And, extra particularly, if Manzardo will endure the identical destiny.)

2:24

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Offense is down this 12 months relative to final and pattern sizes are small, which is a recipe for some guys struggling.

2:25

Avatar Jay Jaffe: I feel particularly given the speed we commonly see within the majors — which we typically don’t see even on the higher ranges of the minors with the identical quantity — it may be lots for a man with no MLB expertise to deal with

2:26

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Manzardo does appear to be he’s struggling provided that 40% Ok price by means of 20 PA, however I actually suppose it’s a mistake to  leap to concusions on anyone so early.

2:27

Teaberry: The Toronto Blue Jays had a lineup final night time with 4 starters who had been sons of former MLB gamers.  Has that ever been equaled or surpassed by one other crew?

2:28

Avatar Jay Jaffe: I’m undecided that’s been equalled, not to mention surpassed. The Jays can commonly area a lineup with Vlad Jr., Cavan Biggio, Bo Bichette, and Daulton Varsho so final night time was hardly a fluke.

2:29

Large Issues: Ought to SFG take into consideration promoting on the deadline?  Seems grim for this 12 months, doesn’t it?

2:30

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Given so many accidents — not solely the current wave of place gamers however these to the rotation, a few of which had been guys they entered the 12 months as in-season additions (Cobb, Ray) — I feel they’re in bother. On the similar time, they’re simply 5 video games beneath .500, and a very good few weeks can erase that.

2:31

Avatar Jay Jaffe: I appreciated what they did late this spring by including Soler, Chapman, and Snell however all of these guys confirmed up trying fairly undercooked so far as prep for the season. I feel that may type itself out over time; it’s too early to panic.

2:31

Kevin: Francisco Lindor is off to a different comparatively gradual begin and possibly a fringe NL All Star candidate. Is there some extent the place you’d contemplate Lindor’s streak of lacking All Star video games deleterious to his Corridor of Fame case, whether or not or not he reaches the JAWS customary?

2:34

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Eh, not notably. All-Star picks are subjective to start with, and we weigh them subjectively within the context of a Corridor of Fame case. Lindor already has extra picks (4) than Robin Yount did (3). We’re speaking a couple of man who’s 30 who’s already banked 5 seasons of at the very least 5.0 WAR and a sixth thats’s not far off.

I additionally suppose it’s value remembering that whereas Lindor is probably not swinging a sizzling bat, he’s typically at all times been an excellent defender, which hardly ever will get the type of consideration that results in All-Star picks if it’s not accompanied by gaudy stats.

2:35

mmddyyyy: Barring harm, does Verdugo appear to be the third OF for the remainder of the season?

2:36

Avatar Jay Jaffe: I do suppose that when Jasson Dominguez is prepared after rehabbing from Tommy John surgical procedure, we’ll see a good bit of him in middle area, with Decide in left and Soto in proper. That may put a squeeze on Verdugo, however he’s made a constructive impression on Boone and the Yankees so I don’t suppose he’s going to be forged apart, nor do I feel the Yankees are going to press ahead with Dominguez if he doesn’t look prepared.

2:36

Baltimoron: I’m not satisfied the Orioles have a real bullpen downside (high 11 in all of ERA, FIP, xFIP, Ok%, Ok-BB%), however there’s a obvious swing-and-miss gap. How would you resolve that downside this season?

2:37

Avatar Jay Jaffe: I’d merely wave a magic wand and repair Craig Kimbrel!

2:39

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Like each different contender, I feel they’ll be within the hunt for reduction assist because the deadline approaches, they usually have numerous buying and selling chips, which ought to assist them get at the very least one influence arm.

2:39

Evan: Plainly if a crew is a methods from contending and has a objective of stockpiling property…it is probably not a nasty concept to mainly convert numerous your SP prospects with excessive finish expertise however obvious flaws (harm historical past, lack of third pitch, and many others) into closers who go all out. Certain, their arm will possible blow out in a 12 months or two, however the price stats can be insane and a few contender will certainly pounce.

2:42

Avatar Jay Jaffe: I feel it’s exhausting to concurrently be a excessive finish prospect whereas missing a high quality third pitch. I can see a rebuilding crew making an attempt to profit by transferring a few of their lesser pitching prospects to the bullpen sooner relatively than later, however groups additionally know they will do this with their very own pitchers relatively than giving up the farm to get the newest one who goes on a roll.

2:43

Jason N: Over some beers with my buddies, kicked round some unhealthy contract swap concepts for Bogaerts. Mike Trout got here up.  At first we had been like “that man’s a franchise icon – they received’t commerce him” however then we remembered it’s Arte Moreno they usually might save nearly $12m/12 months.  Ought to we make it occur?

2:43

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Among the many many issues with this situation is that Bogaerts has a full no-trade clause and completely no motive on God’s inexperienced earth to wish to play for the Angels.

2:44

JT: Is that this simply one other gradual begin in a slew of them for Alex Bregman, or is that this far more troublesome?

2:47

Avatar Jay Jaffe: For a man who regarded like he is perhaps on a HOF path early in his profession, he’s been trending in the direction of “merely fairly good” for a couple of years. Davy Andrews did a check-in a pair weeks in the past mentioning that he had made numerous modifications to his swing ( so possibly there’s one thing there.

2:48

playing cards fan: Watching the Cardinals implode as they’ve final 12 months and this 12 months, has it modified (to the great) your view of Molina’s HOF candidacy?  Not solely have they suffered by means of a downgrade in  game-calling however nearly each side of their sport: working, fielding, hitting and pitching has had sudden declines

2:48

Avatar Jay Jaffe: it’s an fascinating information level, but it surely doesn’t clarify why they hold hiring horseshit managers.

2:50

Avatar Jay Jaffe: I’ve already conceded that the pitch-framing information at FG and BP does sufficient to bolster Molina’s case the place a easy off-the-shelf JAWS comparability makes him look gentle. But when we’re going to lean on that for Molina we must be taking a protracted look not solely at Buster Posey but additionally Russell Martin and Brian McCann.

2:50

wheelhouse: does the bat velocity information have an effect on your opinion on stanton’s outlook all through the period of his contract in any respect, or is it almost meaningless with out realizing long-term year-to-year pattern on it? does him being thus far above the sector imply he has room to regulate and nonetheless be productive, or is he simply too late into his profession for that?

2:53

Avatar Jay Jaffe: that’s a very good query. My first learn of the info is that Stanton is such an outlier that it’s absurd he doesn’t do extra to mood his strategy in an try to trim his Ok price and enhance his batting common and on-base proportion. .230/.283/.452 from a DH doesn’t have a lot worth

2:53

WinTwin0410: Jay, I normally ask in regards to the Corridor of Fame, however I’d wish to shake it up a bit right here and ask you who in baseball historical past have been your favourite bit participant or playersIE, a man who did one thing uncommon (hero in a single sport or for a short while, for instance, or maybe obtained began tremendous late) however in any other case was by no means distinguished?  (Random examples: Mickey Hatcher, Tom Lawless, Jim Morris, Billy Taylor, Rudy Pemberton, Todd Haney, John Paciorek, and many others.)

2:58

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Oh, Mickey Hatcher is a favourite on that stage. My first time listening to Vin Scully coincided with Hatcher’s first main league residence run on Agusust 10, 1979, which helped to again Don Sutton’s fiftieth profession shutout, after which after all he got here up big within the 1988 World Sequence for the Dodgers as properly.

Because the identify of my authentic weblog (b. 2001) attests, I’ve a gentle spot for futility infielders, with Luis Sojo, Lenn Sakata, and Melvin Mora coming to thoughts. Additionally the actually craptacular catcher, Tony Suck. I might go on…

2:59

A Jolly Good Oberkfellow: Did you get to learn the Stark and Rosenthal article about tips on how to save the beginning pitcher on the Athletic? Are you curious about any of these proposals, or have any of your individual?

3:00

mmddyyyy: What number of occasions every year do you see the tip of a sport on the west coast?

3:00

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Greater than I ought to given how usually I’ve to stand up earlier than 7 AM, however that is the place the pitch clock has been a lifesaver.

3:01

RoyalsFan2195: The A’s appear to be a half competent crew this season, so when will they cease working Seth Brown on the market for paltry AB’s? Ok% has ballooned over 30%, Barrel % is down 4%.

3:02

Avatar Jay Jaffe: I feel they’re enjoying him within the hopes that he comes out of it and provides them a possible commerce chip, however two years of sub-replacement stage work received’t do a lot for that.

3:02

Victoria: “Is it a mania? I don’t suppose it’s had anyplace close to the cultural influence of Fernandomania, which tapped into the Los Angeles Dodgers’ authentic sin of constructing their ballpark at Chavez Ravine”

Tom Ricketts must do one thing horrible to make individuals take note of Shota

3:05

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Tom Ricketts has completed some horrible stuff, however none of it has drawn consideration to Shota, alas.

Re-reading what I wrote I notice it was one thing of an incomplete thought. Given a second swing, I feel a greater option to put it could be to say that Fernandomania  “tapped into a big however latent viewers of Latino and notably Mexican and Mexican-American followers that had causes to disregard or detest the Dodgers within the wake of their authentic sin of constructing their ballpark at Chavez Ravine…” and many others.

3:05

The one that asks the lunch query: what’s for lunch?

3:06

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Leftover hen schnitzel and Israeli salad, the originals of which had been what we made for Mom’s Day on Sunday

3:06

André René Roussimoff: The working sport has returned to baseball however the pitchout hasn’t come again. In the course of the ’80s, there have been even back-to-back pitchouts generally! Is it simply thought-about an inefficient play by at present’s groups? Thanks, Jay.

3:07

Avatar Jay Jaffe: That’s a very good query and I don’t actually know the reply. I think it has one thing to do with increased velo and better strikeout charges; why waste a near-automatic ball when you’ve got a greater probability of neutralizing the baserunner by placing out the hitter? Simply spitballing…

3:09

Jeremy: Zack Wheeler simply too late a bloomer to have an actual shot on the HoF?

3:13

Avatar Jay Jaffe: That’s a part of his downside; he’s a pitcher who had simply 2.0 bWAR in fewer than 400 innings by means of his age-27 season. The opposite a part of it’s that even at age 34, he’s solely banked one season of 5.0 bWAR or higher, and solely three of 4.0 WAR or higher. You might possibly put an asterisk subsequent to his 2.8-WAR 2020 and depend it in that group, but it surely’s not sufficient to make him a severe candidate proper now.

3:14

Jack Flaherty: Subsequent participant to be traded away in Miami?  Jazz?

3:14

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Jazz or Jesus Luzardo, in the event that they persuade one other crew his medicals are OK

3:15

mmddyyyy: At what altitude does altitude matter?

3:17

John: Any probability we ever get a return of the Fangraphs podcast? I miss it dearly

3:19

Avatar Jay Jaffe: I do too; behind the scenes, we’ve had some chatter about reviving it, however thus far not sufficient to beat the inertia of not having it.

3:19

Idiotic Failson: No query, only a remark – when individuals discuss prospects struggling I take into consideration these Pitching Ninja movies the place persons are throwing curveballs that break 5 toes and comply with it with a 95mph painted fastball and marvel how anybody ever hits a baseball.

3:21

Avatar Jay Jaffe: baseball is tough! hitting a baseball is ridiculously exhausting, and statistically not getting any simpler (word the MLB-wide batting common of .240 is the bottom it’s been since 1968).

3:22

Steve from Tampa: Is it time to fret about Gleyber Torres?

3:23

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Yeah. He belongs on the aspect of a milk carton

3:24

Soiled Dan McGrew: which prospect had been you actually excessive on solely to see wrestle within the majors?

3:29

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Properly, I picked Wyatt Langford as my AL Rookie of the Yr and thus far that’s been, uh, not nice. Final 12 months I had Volpe within the AL and Corbin Carroll within the NL, the 12 months earlier than that Julio Rodríguez and Seiya Suzuki, and in 2021 I had Randy Arozarena and Ian Anderson; with Yamamoto my choose within the NL this 12 months i would wind up with 4 years in a ro of selecting one Rookie of the Yr appropriately

3:32

Jack: What’s incorrect with Gausman? He seems extra droppable than a supposed high of the rotation starter. Is it harm associated?

3:32

Avatar Jay Jaffe: There’s lots not going proper for the Blue Jays, and Gausman is only one downside — however one I’m going so as to add to my check-in listing for a potential future article

3:33

Colton: Talked about this in Ben’s chat yesterday however I’d like your tackle it as properly. Apparently all of the Cardinals gamers absolutely assist Marmol and the teaching staffs methods and approaches in line with Katie Woo. However after 200+ video games of horrible outcomes, that has to vary in some unspecified time in the future, proper? Like they need to cease beating a useless horse and begin questioning one thing quickly

3:34

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Sure, and IMO it could change if DeWitt begins fascinated by Mozeliak’s neck.

3:34

Alan: Talking of the Playing cards and the HOF, Goldschmidt has appeared to be on a Corridor trajectory for a bit, and some extra good seasons would lock him in. However this 12 months he has fallen off a cliff. If this persists, how a lot does it have an effect on his probabilities?

3:36

Avatar Jay Jaffe: I took a fast take a look at Goldschmidt a pair weeks in the past ( and he’s really misplaced 5 factors of wRC+. I don’t suppose what he’s going by means of is something that some changes can’t overcome, however I do marvel if he wants a change of surroundings to have a greater probability of pulling them off. The Cardinals are sinking quick and being within the place of a struggling veteran enjoying for his subsequent contract looks as if a recipe for urgent relatively than fixing what ails.

3:36

THe GUy WHo MAKEs TRADEs: Give me a motive for a Marlins fan to be optimistic (If there may be one)

3:37

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Sometime later on this century, international warming will increase the ocean stage sufficient to scrub away Miami, through which case the Marlins and their sordid historical past will now not be a focus of baseball discussions.

3:38

MikeD: Don’t the comparisons for gamers like Martin and McCann collapse because it’s not a constant examine throughout historical past? That was my “worry” when Fangraphs carried out pitch framing. They’re merely getting an uplift on WAR that almost all catchers all through historical past don’t.

3:40

Avatar Jay Jaffe:

3:40

Avatar Jay Jaffe: We are able to’t do every part we wish to examine them throughout historical past however we will examine them inside their period and see that they had been roughly Molina’s — and Mauer’s — equal due to their framing.

3:41

Avatar Jay Jaffe: We additionally know that with strikeout charges a lot decrease in earlier eras, it issues an entire lot much less how properly, say, Yogi Berra framed pitches than it does how Buster Posey or Yadier Molina framed them.

3:42

Closers in HOF: Would Craig Kimbrell’s HOF case be helped by attending to 900+ innings in his present position (late inning excessive leverage however not essentially nearer) — even when he doesn’t get to 500+ saves consequently?

3:43

Avatar Jay Jaffe: I feel so, as a result of he’s going to wind up with comparable numbers to Billy Wagner, who appears more likely to acquire entry eventually.

3:43

mr.wacker: luis sojo, hero of the 1995 1 sport playoff…

3:45

Avatar Jay Jaffe: He additionally hit the two-run single that put the Yankees forward of the Mets within the ninth inning of Sport 6 5 of the 2000 World Sequence, and had a couple of different large hits that fall.

3:46

NYY: Down 12 months on the farm for the Yankees high prospects thus far this 12 months. Is there something to get enthusiastic about prospect sensible?

3:48

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Appears fairly early to begin leaping off the Spencer Jones practice however past that I don’t actually have a bead on their system

3:48

Smiling Politely: Jay, after seeing Buehler begin twice, I’m puzzled why he isn’t nonetheless in AAA if he’s overtly admitting he’s forgotten tips on how to do issues like cowl 1st on a floor ball and clearly doesn’t have consistency along with his mechanics. Any ideas?

3:50

Avatar Jay Jaffe: His rehab stint ran the utmost period of time required with out one other IL placement, and because it’s exhausting to simulate the additional adrenaline that comes with being within the majors the Dodgers are giving him a glance. Past that I consider he has sufficient service time that he can’t be optioned with out his consent, and I don’t suppose the Dodgers are to that stage of concern but.

3:50

Avatar Jay Jaffe: OK people, time for me to go out. thanks a lot for stopping by. We’ll do that once more quickly!

3:51

Melvin Mora: Melvin Mora a futility infielder? Two ASGs and 4 straight 4+ WAR seasons.

3:52

Avatar Jay Jaffe: Oh, simply to finish the thought — Mora hit .161 in a cup of espresso as a 27-year-old rookie; no one ever envisioned he could be the late bloomer that he turned. It was enjoyable to observe his evolution, notably realizing that his spouse gave beginning to quintuplets in 2001. The person had many mouths to feed, and so it was particularly nice that he turned a star.

3:52

Avatar Jay Jaffe: and with that, goodbye for now…

 

Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior author for FanGraphs, the writer of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Rating) metric for Corridor of Fame evaluation. He based the Futility Infielder web site (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing author for Sports activities Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring visitor on MLB Community and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Corridor of Fame voter since 2021. Observe him on Twitter @jay_jaffe… and BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.



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