This previous week, I mentioned the rumors and strategies that the Miami Dolphins ought to contemplate signing former gamers Xavien Howard and Ryan Tannehill. I then requested the next question-
Would you like signing both Howard or Tannehill and even a kind of two? If sure, why? If not, why?
Beneath are a few of your ideas and answers-
Mrperson26 thinks the concept of bringing X again, however as a security, could be the best way to go. It isn’t an concept that I had considered, nevertheless it’s additionally not the worst concept I’ve seen as of late!
One factor I don’t perceive is why there isn’t any dialogue of Xavien being introduced again as a security. It’s a pure transition for corners who’re good cowl guys and stable tacklers – rod woodson, Charles Woodson, and aeneas Williams all did it later of their careers.
I agree that the time was ripe to maneuver on from X as a nook, but when Weaver’s system employs three safeties usually, I believe X’s ball expertise and understanding of coverages would lend themselves properly to security play, and the quickness he has misplaced over the previous couple years wouldn’t be as a lot of an element both.
Redwood_ doesn’t appear down with both!
No and No. Subsequent.
PhinstantReaction appears to consider that Tannehill is an all-around higher QB than Tua.
Not clever to herald a wiser, extra skilled and extra proficient backup at QB for those who’re making an attempt to power your starter to be higher than he’s
21Dave doesn’t sound like he may have Howard over for dinner any time quickly!
F%$Ok X with a stick and fervour!!
Tannehill can’t throw the lengthy ball!!! Hahahha
Though we may proceed to #BlameTannehill!!
Spok507 is considerably break up on the query…
I’d take a go on X. He made it very clear, his ego is far greater than the group desires to cope with. He’s not a prime nook (or somebody would’ve picked him up on at the very least a one-year deal by now) and I doubt he has immediately modified his views to simply accept a lesser rol and so much much less cash. I simply suppose he’d be an issue. Sorry X, however you type of wore out your welcome along with your perspective and calls for.
As for RT17… I don’t know. On one hand, I do suppose he’d be an improve type White, who I by no means believed would be capable to lead this group if he needed to. He’s a enjoyable story and straightforward to root for, however simply doesn’t have the expertise to be a beginning QB if referred to as upon. Tannehill has the expertise, however I’m undecided his recreation works with McDaniel’s offense. Whereas he’d in all probability love throwing to our receivers, is he fast sufficient? I do know he’s in all probability smarter than Tua, however I’m undecided he can throw as fast, whereas I consider Tua having to react fast as an alternative of suppose helps him play higher. However, as I stated earlier than, Tanny could be an improve to White. However I’d relatively see the place Skylar is at this level and if he’s developed sufficient to be QB2. He has the perfect arm of the three.
Thomas23059 is on board with X coming again and in addition changing him to security however is every kind of out on Tannehill.
Name me loopy, go forward you already know you wish to.
Howard – would like to see this occur. See if perhaps he could make the conversion to security like Rod Woodson did. Baltimore used quite a lot of DBs, so somebody pretty much as good as Howard nonetheless is ought to get loads of taking part in time. They may in all probability promote him on a decrease value deal to transform to security with the concept that if he excels it units him up for yet another massive payday.
Tannehill – thanks for the reminiscences, however no thanks. Backside line, if Tua goes down, Miami might be toast. But when I’ve to choose between Tannehill and Mike White, I’m taking White. Tannehill threw for over 4000 yards twice in his profession, and his finest seasons got here with a younger Derrick Henry. Mike White has performed most of an NFL recreation 7 instances, and in these 7 video games he has over 2000 yards. So his yards per recreation, for those who exclude the video games the place he didn’t play a lot, works out to a 4000 yard season. He throws far too many interceptions, however at the very least he can transfer the ball by way of the air.
TheRoo1 is a no on each however with vastly completely different reasoning.
So, how a lot of the gross overpayment is Howard providing to present again?
At this level, after his mid contract wage stunt, he must be reminded that “what’s good for the goose, is sweet for the gander”.
As to Tanny, I’ve all the time thought he bought a uncooked deal. Poor assist, and in Tennessee he did enhance. He has been a category act as an individual, and could be a step up from White.
However, bringing him again will begin frequent requires QB substitutions. Tua naysayers will immediately change into Tanny lovers, and name for him loudly. With that in thoughts, I’d be a no vote on Tanny.
acdc1a sees Tannehill as a prime backup if introduced again however doesn’t see Howard taking a reasonably small contract from the Phins.
Tannehill is immediately one of many prime 5 backup quarterbacks within the league. X isn’t going to take rubbish cash. He retires earlier than that occurs.
Call_for_the_Priest’77 shouldn’t be towards bringing Howard again and isn’t offered on the concept that he wouldn’t once more begin for the Phins if he was, in reality, added to this roster. Would even be open to Tannehill coming again…
I like the concept of X coming again to the group however solely on a group pleasant contract in fact. X’s acceptance of such would present a stark turning level in his perspective in direction of cash. Previously he has positioned himself properly forward of the group’s issues. Not likely a judgement towards X, simply extra of a truth. It’s what it’s and it’s hardly an unique perspective simply to him. And naturally, the larger level right here could be his acceptance of a group weighted deal. Even his waffling “(X) has closed the door on returning to Miami” to his now apparently leaving that door open, might be hushed by this variation in perspective.
I might disagree that outright, he wouldn’t be a starter on the group. I’m not saying he could be one, simply that it is not sensible to conclude with certainty that he couldn’t line up reverse his buddy from final yr as soon as once more. Including X to the aggressive mixture of Fuller, Smith, Kohu, Apple and others makes excellent sense to me if he’s going to be on this group. If we had a clone of Jalen Ramsey to play reverse his true self that might be completely different. Nonetheless, I’m nowhere close to able to endorse any of our different guys as being wherever close to his calibre.
I additionally like the concept of making an attempt him in a security position like a few of you have got talked about beneath. Maybe a hybrid security / nook / LB position just like what Eric Rowe did for us a number of years in the past.
Have been it not for cap causes, I don’t suppose we ever would have dropped X. I believe he nonetheless is an efficient participant who must be mightily motivated to point out the league he nonetheless has the products – if he nonetheless has the products! Maybe he’s not the boldface kind ‘X’ however nonetheless a man who may assist the group and perhaps extra so than we expect.
I’m usually skeptical about retreads who had a major keep their first time with the group. I can’t consider a single case of this nature the place such a participant has flourished to any significance. In fact in Tannehill’s case, we wouldn’t be saddling him with the load of the group once more. And will he play behind our group of (wholesome) OL starters, I don’t suppose he will probably be passing blood in reduction anymore (for these new to the group or possessing quick reminiscences, Tannehill was sacked, pressured and hit a lot all through his Dolphins tenure that this actually occurred greater than as soon as. Some crash take a look at dummies had it higher than poor RT!).
We would wish to know his perspective in fact. Would he nonetheless have the starvation and fervour that noticed him by way of these punishing years, however now as an advisor / cheerguy from the bench? May he step in chilly for the primary time as a pre-defined QB2? And okay, what the hell, has he nonetheless bought the products to do one thing?
I believe he in all probability does have some items left. I’m skeptical nonetheless that he would wish to come again. I believe he would like a state of affairs the place he may put himself into the combo for a beginning job as his profession alternatives are diminishing quickly. Miami is not that actuality for him. In reality, if he has reached the bodily and or psychological level the place he would contemplate a nearly outright QB2 position, I must rely that towards him within the motivational division. He would be sure to seek out some aggressive state of affairs that might see him get extra money than a complacent QB2 position in Miami, so that may’t be an element.
That apart, if he expresses a need to play right here and is cool with a pleasant group quantity, I might drop Mike White in a rush to choose up RT once more. I don’t suppose it’ll occur however it could be fascinating, good for Tua and fairly encouraging for the followers and group.
Yarganaught is down with each if the worth is true!
I’d be in favor of signing each gamers… supplied the worth was proper they usually knew their position as back-up. Moreover, it’d give me one other likelihood to put on my Tannehill jerseys.
SuperG! says X is a no go whereas being in on Tannehill on the identical value as White.
If I have been Grier, I’d inform X to go kick rocks. As for RT17, if he’d be prepared to simply accept Mike White cash, then signal him up as he’d be an on the spot improve on the backup place.
Miami7 is up within the air about Howard whereas being in on the Tannehill concept.
I simply don’t suppose ‘X’ has an entire lotta curiosity in hitting/tackling a lot (may very well be flawed). I might suppose ‘protection clever’ he’d be fairly properly suited at this level of his bodily maturation to play S, however I’d must dig a bit of deeper (GII/Earl?), which I’m not so inclined, to really see/decide whether or not I believe he’d thrive in a extra bodily position? Face worth – I don’t suppose he cares to stay his nostril in and play extra of a ‘hitters/physicality’ position?
Tannehill I do suppose would really be a sound ‘get’. However, there once more, I haven’t actually seen sufficient of Mike White to truthfully have a superb opinion on what he brings to the desk. Tannehill could be superb in a caretakers position for a number of video games right here or there. IMO
Luvs2drnk2.0 is probably appropriate on each, particularly Tannehill who’s going to be in search of someplace that he can possible change into the starter.
I’d must go on each, primarily as a result of each are possible in search of extra money than we’d be prepared to pay. Each are possible ready for June 1st to roll round when groups may have more money to signal them. X will possible signal with a contender to offer depth and chase that ring (I’d enterprise KC, BAL, PHI, SF as possible spots). Tanny in all probability nonetheless desires to begin and can wish to go to a group with an getting old veteran (Jets, Rams, SEA) or has a questionable starter (Saints, NYG, CAR, LV) that would give him an opportunity to begin and earn one final massive contract.
Dolfriend appears open to each!
TH > White
X as third Security?
convey again the whalers says sure on Ryan and no on Xavien.
I don’t thoughts the tanne concept, however would relatively give a younger humgry cb reps than x at this level. X will signal some other place, everybody ready till june…
MiamiSkye desires to attend and see with White earlier than changing him.
Even when X performs for the league minimal, he would nonetheless make more cash than ramsay with all of the useless cash. (Until that cash is void, I’m not a contract professional)
Tannehill is an choice however I’d wish to see how white does this low season. I’m undecided it’s price one other 1.7 useless for somebody who is aware of the playbook and group chemistry properly. Hopefully we by no means see him in addition to on the sidelines.
Dolfanjoe says keep on with the present plan till one thing breaks!
Dam James that is an fascinating query of the Nite ! Howard i might say no to except we happen accidents in camp early. We have to develop a few of the youthful gamers we have now now, and having them play preseason will allow us to perceive not solely what we have now trainable and proficient. However we would not have to maintain and might nonetheless transfer on ! Even after cutdown day, if the scouts are doing there jobs gamers must be on the radar as enhancements. As for Tanny ? Would he be an enchancment over White ? I actually would not have any gauge of how White has improved himself as we actually solely seen him play a bit of. The Man has expertise, and confirmed it a number of instances with the Jet’s. Tanny would value us how a lot ? I don’t know what number of instances final yr i screamed at Tua to run for that first down after which slide ! Tanny all the time had the ball’s to try this ! Very skilled QB, works properly working a run recreation offense ! And you’ll say he by no means had the weapons he would discover right here right now ! Have in mind, Tanny can very comfortably sit out the preseason and await that inevitable harm to a primary backup on some group. And he’ll in all probability receives a commission fairly handsomely. I assume what i’m saying is, don’t change something except it’s a must to or compelled to. However that will come………………………By the best way, we have now a second spherical CB who wants to point out he belongs and is combating for a beginning spot !
daytonadolfan is a thumbs up on Tannehill and a thumbs down on X.
I’d be okay with Tannehill as a dependable backup however no to Howard . X is just too far down the diminished talent rabbit gap to go well with me . Given a good “O” line Tua’ and or Tannehill may thrive with the weapons accessible
There was no consensus on this one however that’s a superb factor so far as debates go. Additionally no consensus on the reasoning for bringing or not bringing again both participant. A few of the reasoning both means was for positive issues that I had not considered. Thanks once more to everybody who took the time to reply our query of the day. We are going to return tomorrow night with one other query of the day submit.
