How do I do know Garcia-Haney was a giant combat for boxing followers? As a result of 99.9% of all of the emails I received this week have been about Garcia-Haney. So, let’s simply concentrate on the “Dream’s” nightmare and the “King’s” coronation.
Garcia-Haney in a “Nut”shell
Hey Paul!
Nice tackle the Ryan Garcia combat. I am not stunned by the result of this combat in any respect both. I do assume Ryan has psychological points that he must take care of and people round him should pull him to the aspect. His pre-fight and post-fight antics have been nothing in need of somebody who misplaced their thoughts. Spreading conspiracy theories on-line and repeating them throughout the publish combat interview! What’s up with this child? Consuming beer throughout the weigh in, lacking weight, then acknowledging that he drank throughout coaching camp is indicators of somebody who lacks self-discipline and self management. He undoubtedly deserves reward for an incredible victory. However let’s not overlook the truth that Ryan Garcia has by no means been topped a champion throughout the course of his skilled profession.
Conversely, Devin Haney has numerous pondering to do himself. Is the Daddy/Supervisor/Coach/Hypeman factor? Possibly he must rethink. There have been no technical instructions being given to Haney throughout the course of the combat. After the primary spherical, it was clear that Ryan’s left hook could be straightforward to land. Haney stood proper in entrance of him and tried to brawl. For somebody with Haney’s technical caliber and combating model he fought out of his aspect. He might need been out to show that he was a killer/juggernaut/robust man. When the truth is all he needed to do was keep on with what received him this far and he would’ve had a greater efficiency. If Haney goes to proceed his profession shifting ahead and get again to that prime canine degree, he must get again to the fundamentals, and combat the beginner model that received him right here. Nonetheless, it is time to transfer out of his father’s circle and chart his personal path as knowledgeable. In case you have been a Father/Coach/Supervisor would you let your son combat a naturally greater opponent who is available in 3.5 kilos over the burden restrict?– Na’-il Rahman
Hey Na’-il.
Thanks.
This concept that Ryan Garcia was simply “trolling” everybody, pretending to be nuts and missing in coaching self-discipline, is completely absurd. He appeared like canine shit on Saturday and, as I wrote on this Monday’s Notes from the Boxing Underground column: “he clearly wasn’t making ready doggedly and furtively between social media bull periods, fine-tuning his model and dealing on pacing, footwork, and conditioning.” He gained the combat with a handful of huge, quick, however sloppy left fingers that Haney, for some motive (we’ll get into that later), couldn’t defend. Take away the knockdowns and this combat was a draw, largely as a result of, even with Haney reeling, unsteady, and uncertain, he nonetheless gave away enormous parts of the combat by merely not realizing what to do or place himself. When it comes to abilities, Garcia is definitely regressing. So, once more, he wasn’t fooling the world into pondering he wasn’t taking coaching seriously– he truly wasn’t.
Transferring ahead, anticipate extra of the identical from Garcia. What motive would there be for him to alter (aside from for the satisfaction of mastering his craft…yeah, proper)? However that left hand is a hazard to anybody. Nonetheless, as Tank Davis proved, it may be nullified.
And that results in the subject of Devin Haney and what went flawed.
He knew coming into this combat that Garcia’s solely actual weapon was his left hand. His father/coach Invoice Haney knew that. Shit, EVERYBODY knew that. But, Devin appeared completely incapable of defending in opposition to it. He appeared to haven’t any Plan A, no Plan B and nowhere to show to when he tasted his first little bit of adversity within the opening seconds of the combat.
In my not-so-humble opinion, that’s on Invoice Haney. The increasingly more I listen (as a result of I have a tendency to not pay an excessive amount of consideration to hype males and people shouting, leaping up and down for the cameras), the extra I see a man whose ego has run amok, trampling over the great work he’d completed in getting Devin to a sure degree. Invoice all the time appears out to show a point– and that time all the time appears to be “I am vital, please see me as vital.” I wouldn’t doubt it for one second if he was hyper-focused on having his son brutalize and cease Garcia, for the sake of delivering a message and topping Tank Davis. If that’s the case, that mindset undoubtedly labored in opposition to every part that made his son a hit as much as Saturday. And, yeah, I believe it was that very same hungry ego that permit his son get within the ring with somebody so wildly over the burden restrict, contemporary, who didn’t trouble to attempt to make weight. An actual coach would’ve, on the very least, used Ryan lacking weight as leverage, forcing him to attempt to dry out to the good thing about his personal fighter.
It wouldn’t be unwise for Devin to possibly break away from daddy and get somebody who’s all enterprise, who could make him a extra full fighter and never a well-trained automaton. He must be fine-tuned and be taught to improvise better– one thing which is able to by no means occur underneath Invoice’s heavy thumb.
Ryan Garcia = Adrien Broner?
Hey Paul,
Very long time fan of your columns on Combat Hype. I simply admire how sincere you might be about what you see, no b.s. simply taking issues for what they’re. My query for you is that have not we seen Ryan Garcia earlier than…within the type of Adrien Broner?This is not me hating on both of them, I truly like each of them for what they convey to boxing. They’re all the time entertaining, and watching them win or lose is a curler coaster experience the entire combat. Nonetheless, they’re what they’re. Loud mouths, gifted, entertaining, goofy, sort of bizarre, and finally individuals you already know that you would be able to’t take critically. And, they do not even take themselves critically which is why, in Adrien Broner’s case anyway as of proper now, they’re/will grow to be excessive finish gate keepers. All the time across the prime of no matter weight class they’re in, however by no means the person.I am curious should you see the parallels as effectively?Take it straightforward man, I admire the work.
– Cory Inexperienced
Hey Cory.
Thanks for the sort phrases.
That’s a extremely sensible comparison– Broner and Garcia. There are numerous similarities. Broner additionally “received huge” together with his social media content material earlier than getting huge with any ring work. It may be stated that neither has taken their coaching critically of their bodily primes. And their physique of labor as boxers can also be comparatively uneven, particularly in relation to their pure presents.
I see Garcia in for , sound crash sooner or later. For me, it’s not a matter of “if” however “when.” And it’s going to be uglier than Broner’s as a result of evidently Garcia has a far bigger group of enablers and sure males round him, plus all that social media assist for the enablers in cyber house.
However, undoubtedly, good name with the comparability.
Garcia vs Haney: The Blueprint for Boxing to Develop
Hello, Magno!!
As all the time, wishing you and your loved ones the very best.
Let me begin by congratulating you in your evaluation of the Haney vs Garcia combat. One of many only a few that gave Ryan a shot based mostly on types. I simply didn’t see it that method, I noticed it aggressive within the first 6 rounds, then Haney cruising to a snug determination. Then once more, that is why I like boxing, something can occur. I’ve all the time given credit score to Ryan and I believe we must always all do, for daring to be nice and be prepared to face the very best on the market, though he’s very flawed and within the present enterprise, it is rather straightforward to cherry choose and make your cash, particularly when you’ve got drawing energy. If gifted and expert boxers dare to face one another of their prime, the cash will comply with. Ryan has taken a stand in opposition to the promoters and the present enterprise of boxing and he is without doubt one of the prime three attracts within the US.
I disagree with the evaluation that should you don’t like what you might be getting as a pay-per-view simply don’t purchase it, as a result of in actuality, aside from the large huge fights, the followers won’t purchase it, however will steal the combat. Sadly, I believe the development will improve with announcement of so many PPV fights in 2024. The media and the followers need to ship the message that PPV ought to solely be for large occasions, to not subsidize the promoters and or the networks. If not, then should you don’t prefer it don’t purchase it may be used to justify about every part that’s hurting boxing, Canelo doesn’t combat Benavidez then don’t purchase his fights, unhealthy judging, don’t purchase the fights, and so on. Hope Ryan motivates different generational abilities to do the identical.
– Benjamin from PR
Hey Benjamin.
I agree with what you’ve said– in concept. There’s additionally one thing to be stated for younger fighters competing at a degree relative to their present ability degree. Ryan was out of his league in opposition to Tank, and it confirmed. Clipping Haney, in the meantime, stated nearly as a lot about Haney because it did about Ryan. I’d be tremendous with Ryan constructing to his present degree, however that’s his name. IMO, it’s not profession selection for a not-elite fighter to be competing in opposition to elites if his objective is to have a long-term profession.
As for the PPV stuff. I believe the one method for followers to point out their displeasure with a product is by not buying it. It’s the identical with any group of customers. Lack of gross sales interprets to “we should change” to corporations. What different method is there for customers to power change? What incentive would there be for a corporation to alter, in the event that they didn’t worry a client backlash? The issue is that too many followers ARE prepared to pay for stuff that needs to be free. That offers promoters a inexperienced mild to maintain charging for every part.
Harvey Dock
How unhealthy was that ref [for Garcia-Haney, Harvey Dock] and the way unhealthy are individuals hyping these fighters performing like they’re a Pernell Whitaker a Chavez a Camacho? I can go on and on. What do assume? Horrible, horrible ref. Ought to put him underneath investigation. He was unhealthy…second knockdown an excessive amount of… may have counted him out.
– AF
Hey AF.
Yeah, the combat was thrilling, nevertheless it was additionally a sloppy mess.
Harvey Dock is often referee. He had a foul evening. May there have been some “this isn’t alleged to be taking place” bias occurring. Possibly. It certain did appear like he was giving Devin each probability to get well. However that might simply be our notion, watching the combat from a distance, excited in regards to the flip of occasions, and desirous to have the fighters get again to the motion. I’m prepared to chop him some slack for this one.
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